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>> stay curious. ♪ [applause] a >>nd now, "bbc world news." th jane is "bbc world news america." reporting from washington, i am jane o'brien. at least 49 people have been slled and many more seriously injured after a maoting at two mosques in new zealand. >> the shooting and the shooting and the shooting, it went on about six minute or more i cod hear screaming and crying. jane: the 28-year-old man now charged with murder will appear inourt shortly. pheted a far-right manifesto and streamed the attack online. and president trump issues his
first veto striking down a congressional effort to stop his national emergency on the southern border. jane: welcome to our viewers on public television in america and around the globe. at least 49 people have been killed and dozens more have been inred after a gunman opene fire during friday prayers at two mosques in new zealand. the attacker identified himself as a 28-year-old australian, and he will appear in court shortly. he filmed the shooting, string streaming the whole thing live on social media. prime minister jacinda adern talked about changing gun laws in the cntry.
prime min. ardern: when people hear that this individualun acquired aicense and acquired weapons of that range, then obviously people will be seeking change, and i am committing to that.st jane: prime mi jacinda ardern. she went on to say that she would be traveling to christchurch. the bbc's hywel griffith is there and sent this report. hywel: fear ched on their faces, people fled the christchurch mosques looking for safety, as aed police searched city streets. worshipers say he shot indiscriminatelywalking from room to room, sparing no one in his path. >> i was hearing the shooting and shooting and the shooting. it went on about six minute or more. i could hear screaming and crying. i saw some people drop dead. the guy was taking the rounds
out side next to the mosqu walls, and then he took the gun and started again. hywel: a man identifying himself austrian-born brenton tarrant live-streamed his attack on facebook. earlier he posted a 73-page document full of anti-islamic hatred online. as well as images of his weapons, slogans scrawled on them by hand. the attack targeted two mosquesc istchurch and at aroundal 1:40 lime, police responded to reports of shots being fired at the al noor mosque. at least 41 people were lled the second shooting was a short drive away at the linwood mosque, where at least seven people were killed. one other died in hospital.
police ao defused several explosive devices attached to a vehicle. >> i heard a saw what i thought were firecrackers. i saw young fellows running down the street. all of a sudden it got quite violent and i thought, those are not firecrackers. the started fallg. one fell to the left of my car and one fell to the right. thon the street was trying r to rendes wife, and the other guy i could see was in bad shape but i could get to him because at is directly where -- i could not get to him because that is directly where the gunfire was coming from. the guy i was compressing, he s trying to ring his wife. i managed to get it and i answered the phone and i said, "your husband has been shot inside the mosque. don't come h through, but please go to a hospital and wait for him." i kept talking to him and telling him that she was at the
hospital waiting and he wasn't to give up. we just kept pressure on until we got him some help. hywel: the manhunt through christchurch eventually ended with a car being rammed by the police and the suspect being wrestled to the grou. four people had been arrted. one has been released. >> we never assume there areot other people involved. that is why we have immense presence out there across canterbury and right across new zealand. but we don't have named or people we are looking for. it would be wrong to assume there is no one else. hywel: the city's emergency services remain on high alert. christchurch's hospital has been treating dozens of people with gunshot wounds and is closed to all other admissions. late into the night, christchurch has remained a city on lockdown. there is genuine fear that there may yet be further attacks. across the country, all mosques have been orded to close their
doors, and for the first time, new zealand's rror threat level has been raised to high. the deep sense of shock have zefelt in neand has echoed throughout the world. messages have been sent from the pope, president trump, and the queen. new zealanders areth astonished could have happened. >> you don't think something like this could happen in new zealand, in christchurch of all places, such a small community, so kind and loving. i don't understand why someone would hurt us like t such a way, just like an animal. why would you treat us like that? hywel: itimes of such sorrow, the was little that can comfort people today as they confront the question of how such a violent extremism could have been allowed to feer here. hywel griffith, bbc news, christchurch. jane: president trump has spoken
about the attack, saying he talked to new zealand's prime minister and offered his condolences.. prump: earlier today i spoke with prime minister ardern of new zealand to express thef sorrowr entire nation following the monstrous terror attacks at two mosques. ceese sacred places of worship were turned intos of evil killing. you have all been seeing what went on. it thing.rrible, horrible i told the prime minister that the united states is with them all the way. jane: the gunman said he was a 28-year-old australian named brenton tarrant. ousecurity correspondent gordon carrera has been trying to find out more about the man and his motives. gordon:on brearrant, seenhe in his car in in in she he o streamed lithe internet. moments later, the 28-year-old would enter a mosque to kill. what do we know about him? n bornstralia, he traveled widely, seen here in pakistan,
though he also visited europe. a before tacks he posted a rambling 70-page document lfline. he described hims just an ordinary white man born to a working-class family, so a racist, fascist, and nationalist. he said he wanted to target what he called invaders to incite violence and spread fear. on his video he showed an arsenal of weapons in his car, and two ys earlier he appeared to have posted images of some of the weapons on social media. he had written names on them, including other peop who attacked muslims and historic battles. he said he was not a membeof any organization or under orders, but he did have contactm wiy nationalist groups. should the authorities have known about him? that question was asked of the new zealand police chief. a >> that ery good question. what i want to tell you right
now is that we had -- no agency had any information about these people. i can also tell you that i've been in contact with australian colleagues. they have no information on them at all. gordon: 8 news ago norway was gordon: 8 years ago norway was hit one of the worst ,ight-wing terro attacks doze of teenagers shot dead anders breivik. tarrant claimed it as an inspiration and even to have had brief contact withreivik. he also said heupported the attack on the mosque in london. and on one of the weapons is a reference to the child sex abuse scandal in north of england, leading to questions about whether he could have any links in the u.k. >> this is an emerging and fast-moving picture, but we will be resolute in pursuing all ksnes of investigation. if there are any lhat need
to be pursued, that is what we will do. gordon: there has been growing concern about thrise in extreme right-wing activity here in the uk over the last two years. in the last six months, for the first ti mi5 has become involved in investigating it. tarrant said he only recently decided on christchurch as his target. they authoritiesn new zealand and others around the world will now be focusing on this thread -- threat with a new urgency. gordon carrera, bbc news. ne: what more can security officials do to protect against such threats? i sat with jack tomarchioer, a fofficial at the homeland security department. jack, thanks very much f joining me. the suspect says that he was acting on his own. r wasn't affiliated with any organization, un orders. how can law enforcement get better at spotting thee wolves? jack: well, jane, first of'l,
i think were seeing a different paradigm. instead of looking at lone wolves, we are seeing individuals who e in some way connected to each other, using media,ernet, looking social media, as ways to find other fellow travelers, so to speak, who are white supremacists, white nationalists. we saw this individual here who perpetrated these horrendous tacks in new zealand as taking his inspiration from the 2015 attack in norway which got 77le people k jane: how hard is it for law enforcement to disrupt theses? informal netwo jack: it is not an easy task to do that, jane. it is very difficult. it takes investigatory tools, it takes analysts, and it takes people who understand the motivation of the white supremacist movement. frankly, we d't have a lot of erstandthat really u that right now because it has been kind of below the radar
screen type of movement. yes, there have been people like dylan roof who killed people in charleston, south carolina, e african-american church. there have been others, but they have not risen to the same level of concern, international concern, that for example al qaeda has in the past or isis has in the past. we really need to start learning about their motivation, about their ideology, read the manuals, read their books, and look for the inspiration to understand, just as we understand how interna islamic terrorism was perpetrated. now we need to understand this whe supremacist movement, which is still new to us. jane: how does law enforcement spot t flags? this person posted a lot of things online. jack: that's right, and just like we have seen people who were affiliated with al qaeda or isis posting things online, we now have to start looking at people that are posing these type of manifestoes or diatribes or screeds that have a diffent motivation.
on one end of the spectrum you have the al qaeda, isis type ofs terr now you have the type of terrorist going after muslims. we have a whole different set of characters that we have to start looking at. in the past, law enforcement would be concerned about indiduals who want to perpetrated the jihad in the united states or the u.k. now we have to look at individuals who want to perpetrate a domestic white supremacist, nationalist-based attack for reans that are obviously different than jihadi. it is going to be more complicated and cost more and involve more people and law enforcement assets devoted to this hunt. jane: jack tomarchio, thank youc veryindeed for joining me. for more on the rise of far-right extremism, i'm joined by seth jones at the center for strategic and international
studies. why is right-wing extremism and whitsupremacism in particula on the rise? seth: there are two reasons. one is that there are a few issues fueling it. one of them is immigration. there are particular issues in the u.s. to latin americans and mexicans and others who have come in or perceiv to have come in in larger numbers. the other is that in places like europe, syrians, afghans, other foreign immigrants. the second issue is that there is increasing utilization of social media. it is across the board. it is facebook, it is twitter, it is youtube, applications toun coate with each other. we see much greater connection , virtual connections across countries and continents than we have ever seen before. ja: how do you stop that?
the prime minister of new zealand said that distributing distressing material was an offense, but in reality, who pothces it? sethe are two kinds of organizations that keep an eye on it. one is government agencies, law enforcement and intelligence, and the second is the private sector, the organizations hosting it. they have algorithmsdentifying it the challenge for some of the private sector is they had such a focus on islamic extremismnd then russian disinformation. w they are being asked to identify words and phrases they can put into algorithms forfa right attacks. we can also see ethnonationalists, left wing. the possibilities are endless for these kind of organizations. jane: how widespread is it? the president today said it is only small group of people. seth: i think the data is very disturbing on the rise of right-wing extremism.
we saw a doubling of right-wing terrorist attacks in the u.s. just b we have seen a massive increase in the number of right-wing terrorist attacks europe, including in the u.k., not just the attack on finsbury park mosque, but the assassination of jo cox, labor member of parliament. these are pa of a global trend in the rise of right-wing extremism.to people havee christchurch cht as specific incident isolated, but a roader trend we are seeing in terms of the rise in attacks in europe, in the u.s., and now i australia and new zealand. jae?: are the triggers the s a lot of people are saying how could this have happened in new zealand of all places. seth: the triggers in many ways are similar.
immigration appears to be one of several common themes that have run across the neo-nazi and the far-right extremist view they believe that their countries are being flooded by foreigners, people of different colors, different religions. they now need to fight for their secountry. jane jones, thanks very much for joining me. seth: thank you. jane' now to some of the das other news. pen,the flick of his donald trump issued his first presidential veto today. it came after 12 republicans resolution ending the national emergency on the southern border. mrbut building the wall wa trump's key campaign promise and it turned out to be the only way .e could get the fun i was joined by former u.s. anassiattorney kim wehle a few minutes ago. thanks for joining me. where does ts go now? m: the question will be whether there will be a veto override.
it seems like in neither house of congress are there enough of votes to override a veto. and organizations challenging oe initial declaration of national emergencyn statutory grounds because of how the president plans to move money around, but the bigger issue is the separation of powers challenge. we have a face-off between the power of the president and the power of the congress, and it is rely quite serious. i think the 12 defectors in the senate fm the republican party, unusual in this particular congres represent how important this is. jane: so what can they do about that if the president has the power of veto? kim: there is already talk of amending the statute itself, thcause the problem here is congress. congress passed a statute giving the president the authority to declare a national emergency and did not give a definition of a national emergency. it allowed itself to second-guess that, which is whar happened
you can say, listen, we don't think this particular declaration is that thing, but didn't define it. congress can go back and change the definition so in the future beis president and other presidents will noble to declare it so easily, but also we have these other cases that are going through and it remains to be seen whether anybody in congress would join those cases. but prumably they will continue and the courts will have to rule on the question of whether thisarticular exercise of emergency powers was problematic as separation of powers. we have a congress who said we ey going for the wall. it is symbolically shutting coonress out of the conversa and saying, i don't care if you are not going to appropriate the money, i will do it anyway. that is a clash between the appropriations clause and the president's power under this statute that gives him the power to declare a national emergencyw jane: l as using his power of veto, president trump is tweeting today yet again his displeasure with the russia probe. there are so many investigations going on.
why is he focusing on this? iokim: that is a great que because the russia probe the scope of the mandate that rod rosenstein signed and gave to robert mueller has to do with the russians interfering in the election. it does not name mr. trump. in theory it is something every american should care about as a matter of national security. the president himself as commander-in-chieff the executive branch is the first and foremost person who should be chomping at the bit to find out what mr. mueller determined with respect to what we know om our own national intelligence and security agencies was an actual attack on our electoral system. it begs the question of whether this president has something to hide, d with 17 ongoing investigations, i think that iso a fair queto ask. jane: kim wehle, thanks very much indeed for joining me. kim: my pleasure jane: a quick look a of the day's other news. a senior north korean official said leader kim jong-un is
considering breaking off denuclearization talks with the u.s. president. after decades of hostilities, the leaders of the two natioco met for the time in singapore last month. the talks were halted after mr. trump refused to lift sanctions unless north korea destroyed its nuclear sites. there have been more protests in algeria today as thousands took to the streets demanding that idthe prt step down. on monday, he dropped his bid for a fifth term, but canceled the april elections, leading to accusations that he is still trying to prolong his rule.en the presidt is in poor health d rarely seen in public. israel has carried out air o rikes in gaza in retaliation for the firing of ckets towards tel aviv. the rocket fire, which did not cause damage or injuries, was the first to target ty since 2014. four people were wounded in the strikes on gaza. israel's military said that the headquarters of the militant group hamas was among the targets.
d as a newn bille neighborhood on new york's west side. itpened to the public today, and with n i shops and office buildings. at its core is a 150-foot-tall blic landmark called vessel, a made up of ovele of stairs and pathways for people to explore. the bbc's nada tawfik went to have a look. nada: hudson yards is the most expensive real estate development in u.s. history. set up of active train tracks o the west side,is altered new york's skyline and transformed acres of city space. the centerpiece of it all is vessel, a honeycomb-like landmark that sits in the league square. >> so often cities build nha developmentsmake them more similar to everywhere else in the world. how can we do something that is about as all and something that
will engage people and lift up and have another perspective on your girlfriend, grandmother, children? init is about ging people together. nada: the developer of hudson yards is betting on this being a major attraction for newan yorks tourists. there are plans to host events and concertsear. with 250 steps, there is plenty of spaceo climbnd climb and climb some more. it is quite a workout, and for those who just want to relax and take in theacrop for the perfect selfie. each intricate steel piece was manufactured 4000 miles away in italy and shipped to the hudson river docs. the first section is the ground ilin a 2017. by that december, interconnecting flights of stairs were in place. vessel is a temporaryth name, ad
public has been asked to choose a permanent one. it already has a few nicknames, like stairmaster, beehive, and stairway to nowhere. leave it to skeptical new , rkers to come up with all kinds of suggestiot they may not all be polite. nada tawfik, bbc news, new york. jane: nothing stays the same in new york for long. before we go, here is the latest on the situation in christchurch. new zealand's prime minister has vowed that her countries -- her countries unless -her countries gun laws will change following the mosques. two tracinda -- jacinda adern the susirme that is an austrian citizen. as we have been discussing, the suspect left a right-wing manifesto about why he planned and live-streamed the attack. an outpouring of sympathy forha the victimcome from around the world. remember, you can find more on
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captioning sponsored by wshour productions, llc >> woodruff: good evening. i'judy woodruff. on the newshour tonight: terror in new zealand. 49 people are killed in shootings at two mosques... one of the darkest days in that country's history. then, mark shields and david brooks on the dangers of hate speech to spark violence. plus, a photographer on a mission to capture the past, documenting the often-overlooked places of the underground railroad. >> it's about the history of people who were engaged in a process and a project of self liberation. i want to remind people about that because i think it resonates even today, globally.